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cossover mac has been released
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

Run that instead of parallels and you don't need windows at all. It doesn't work for all programs though.
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the linux version allows you to run windows apps in linux
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Okay, this is what I've wondered about a program like this, wouldn't something like this allow a Windows virus to run natively in OSX or Linux?
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ya, so my view on this is that everyone should get a mac, and i'll get a pc, and all this trash talking about the mac being good due to no viruses and its great anti-virus system, i mean who in their right mind would waste time on building a virus for a mac back in the day, so if you all get one, have fun with the viruses and i'll coast free with my pc
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you are missing the point. It isn't about the viruses. It is a better os platform. Built on linux. Linux by far is the safest OS based on its structure. Windows isn't. You can add to windows anything you want but unless you change the kernal it will never be as safe as a linux kernal. Viruses should not be a problem because they are still in a sense running in a virtualized environment and don't have access to the OSX kernal. This is why macs have fewer viruses -- less access to the kernal.
mr. negative when have you actually used a mac for anything? Video editing, ripping etc.

Here is the difference between a geek with a mac and a geek with a windows box. The one with a mac is multicultural learning 2 or more operating systems instead of just the one.
I am saying this from the other side. I used to be like pbmiller. I was like that on the WII too. Until you try something better not rip it too much.
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or maybe the reason macs have fewer viruses is because people who make viruses, like people who make anything, try to get to the large pop pool, therefore since pcs are more in abundance than macs, it would make sense to make them for pcs and not macs, not due to less access. Better to aim for the wider target than the little minute one.
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ahh, duh, I didn't think about that, so basically this crossover thing is making a mini-vm by emulation?

@pbm
Yeah your right to a point, but Macs are based on Unix too... definitely another big difference security-wise. Also, people are targeting macs now for two reasons, one, they are being adopted quickly, but even more important is that mac users tend to think they're invincible, so it makes people like you ticked and you go after the mac users... you get the idea, they are slowly being targetted, but I'd have to say that if Windows and Macs each had a dead even market share, you'd probly see about 25-35% more problems in Windows machines, simple because Macs are based on Unix. That can't be proven obviously (maybe in 8-10 years if Apple keeps it up at this pace), but it makes sense to me. Like byers said, don't knock it til you've tried it, I've seen iMacs at a store near us and have played with it, and even though its in Chinese and I'm just messin with the basic apps, i can kinda see where its kinda... I dk, feels happier, it's really tough to explain, but I do know this for sure, there are tons of people switching to macs right now (the macbook is one of the fastest selling laptops period right now), and 9 out of 10 of them will gush about they can't believe they've waited this long to switch, very little negativity... don't knock it til you've tried it...
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tough to say if we will ever get to see the comparison of viruses/spyware/malware on equal market share. . .especially since m$ has been so dominant for so long. most are going to take the easy, already known path instead of trying to break out into the new. cds, you make a good point that many bitter against mac may target them, but i don't think we will see major issues on a mac until after it has been on top for 8-10 years. . .at which point, m$ will cease to be as big a target as it currently is.
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cds0528 wrote:
i can kinda see where its kinda... I dk, feels happier, it's really tough to explain,


cds i think you were on something,
but with saying that macs are going to take the market or that they won't since everyone likes a pc since the haven't tried a mac, is sorta along the lines of the Zune, i think, not only i but others agree who dont despise apple, is better than the video ipod, but it won't get a chance because everyone thinks the ipod is better and they won't try it. Personally, even though you probably could guess this, i'd get a zune over a video ipod, but i probably won't get either.
tr what you said that macs will be taking over in a few years, i agree,
but in a couple more years after that another company is going to take over with their stuff, just the beauty of competition, so just call me when the first totally holographic computer comes out and i'll buy 5 years after its released, i tend not to go for the totally brand new stuff, best to give it a while to see if it will hold up to its task. On a final note, even though i'm probably wrong, i think the next big breakthrough in technology has something to do with computers and holographic stuff, of course it might not come in the near future.
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Are you on something. have you went and used a Zune. It is a toshiba that has been repackaged. It even looks old and bulky. Doesn't have podcast support battery life is bad. Has a clickwheel looking device but it isn't a clickwheel.
The zune is really really bad though. Very bad DRM. It puts DRM on everything even your un DRM'd music. Even the idea that MS paid the music industry for every zune assuming everyone is a pirate is enough reason to no buy a zune. Zune doesn't work with the newest version of WMP 11 and doesn't work with any thing MS previously developmed (plays for sure).
I don't know PBMiller I just think you discredited yourself with the Zune comment...it would be easier to ride Microsofts one big hardware success...the Xbox.
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Hah, well I'd have to say I disagree with both of you, lol...

First, no the Zune is not better than an iPod, but I'm sayinig it comes closer than anything else. The screen is bigger, which is really cool, it does have a nice-looking UI. I've seen a few videos of someone navigating the UI, and for not having a click-wheel its actually pretty impressive. The UI is customizable for one, which is kinda cool with picture backgrounds and stuff (the iPod UI works great, but looks kinda old). It's got an FM radio (matters to some people), having WiFi in it opens up for the future, cuz MS themselves said this is version one.

Now the bad, the DRM problems isn't nearly as bad as people say, It's really about equal with the iPod anyways. The "adds DRM to un-DRM songs" is kinda deceiving. Basically when you send a song to your friends to try, it has to add some sort of DRM to it, or else that would be stealing songs. I see no other choice and you can't really argue with that. In no other situation does it add DRM to songs. My biggest complaint is that it uses some sort of Zune Software, and not WMP11. No podcast support yet is disappointing, but it is on the way says the Microsofts reps, it was a necessary cut early in order to go from whiteboard to selling the thing in 9 months (impressive). Personally, if someone asks me to recommend a video mp3 player, and the say they want something other than an iPod, I'll probably point them at the Zune, but the iPod is still on top.
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